Iraq War

[Antioksidan]

Is USA right to occupy Iraq?

What is the public opinion in your contry, about this issue?

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The Hellenic people is against in any invasion and occupy specially when the intruder has declare "the alleging to a right of intervention to restore security, order, democracy and to protect the domestic people".

War will born thousands wars.

[Antioksidan]

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The Hellenic people is against in any invasion and occupy specially when the intruder has declare "the alleging to a right of intervention to restore security, order, democracy and to protect the domestic people".

War will born thousands wars.

Your description resembles the ideas of the Hellenic People about the Cyprus intervention :154

But I approve your last sentence, Yes, "War will born thousands wars."

So, what about the public oppinion in Hellas? Are majority against the most of the politics of the USA? Does anyone feel sypmathy to US?

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Hellenic people is against the USA policy specially after two historic facts.
The first was in 1967 and the support of the US administration in xounda.
The second was in 1974 and the invasion in Cyprus. Everybody knows the involve of Kissinger and the dark desk of the CIA during this period.

Hellenic people was opposite in the US policy not only in the above mentioned matters but and in the X-Yugoslavia conflicts. The antiamericanism is strong and i thing non inversible.

Before the US invasion in Iraq everybody here knew that US and Turkish police in the region had the same aims.

This policy change after the denyals of
1- your Congress to approve the pass of the US troops and
2-the intervention to the Turkish army in Northern Iraq (Kurdish sector) from the US forces.
Am i right?

[Antioksidan]

Our policy is still the same in fact. We don't want a Kurdish State to be founded in Northern Iraq as it can be a big thread for Eastern Turkish lands as the Kurdish state, which is wanted to be founded, wants Turkey's Eastern lands. Moreover, we don't want Terrorist Organizations to be supported in Iraq.

Those are our red-lines, and they are still the same.

By the way, you said that, "The second was in 1974 and the invasion in Cyprus. Everybody knows the involve of Kissinger and the dark desk of the CIA during this period." Did US supported Turkish intervention to the island?

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By the way, you said that, "The second was in 1974 and the invasion in Cyprus. Everybody knows the involve of Kissinger and the dark desk of the CIA during this period." Did US supported Turkish intervention to the island?

Indirectly Yes.
And I do not say me or the Hellenes. The US politicians confirmed the events.

He admitted Kissinger in his book. One of his lies was that deliberately induced the government Karamanlis to not send armed forces in Cyprus with result your country applies Attila B.
In that period Hellas could have sent help while parallel the Hellenic submarine (209) as it is known threshed. But induced the Hellenic government saying that the hostilities had stopped. Mehmet Ali Birat confirms this event in one from him books. Without of course accused Kissinger

President Clinton also admitted in his speech, apologizing in deed; for this period of policy application of USA in Hellas.

But the game for them was unfortunately lost.
For these events we never again entrust them.

[Antioksidan]

Very interesting... It's not pupblicly known in Turkey. We were told that, at that time in Hellas the Junta administration was not prepared for a war with Turkey, so they couldn't send any troops to the island.

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And, as for the antiamericanism, We didn't know that fact either. Here too, antiamericanism is very strong yet it's due to America's policy in the middle east. Turkish people are strongly against the War in Iraq & Afganistan. We don't know, when US will declare war on which country. Iran? Syria?

They are really governing the whole world with their own interests.

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Do you remember the incident with the Turkish Destroyer and the aircrafts?
Your forces knew that a hellenic fleet unit moved in South West Cyprus and looking for to sinking.
20 miles before reached in the Cyprus this unit call back in the Rhodes island because the hostiles (Attila A) stoped. That's was the involved of the US factor.

As concern your question it depends from the situation in Iraq.
New fronts will not open soon. Must close the excistance.

[Antioksidan]

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Do you remember the incident with the Turkish Destroyer and the aircrafts?
Your forces knew that a hellenic fleet unit moved in South West Cyprus and looking for to sinking.
20 miles before reached in the Cyprus this unit call back in the Rhodes island because the hostiles (Attila A) stoped. That's was the involved of the US factor.

We didn't know those you stated. :68 Surprising for us, May be I can translate them into Turkish to inform our non-english speaking users.

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But, why did USA supported Turkey during the intervention? What was the interest of them?

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But, why did USA supported Turkey during the intervention?

The fall of the Macarios. He payed with the dichotomy of the island the friend-soviet policy.

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What was the interest of them?

The English Bases. The "electronic eyes" of the Middle East.

Don't forget that was the cold war period, and your country cleaverly catch the "chance"